bhaney 6 hours ago | next |

There are a lot of major security vulnerabilities in the world that were made understandably, and can be forgiven if they're handled responsibly and fixed.

This is not one of them. In my opinion, this shows a kind of reputation-ruining incompetency that would convince me to never use Arc ever again.

endigma 5 hours ago | root | parent | next |

Also, firebase? seriously? this is a company with like, low level software engineers on payroll, and they are using a CRUD backend in a box. cost effective I guess? I wouldn't even have firebase on the long list for a backend if I were architecting something like this. Especially when feature-parity competitors like Supabase just wrap a normal DBMS and auth model.

JumpCrisscross an hour ago | root | parent |

> low level software engineers on payroll

How does The Browser Company make money? They're giving their product away for free.

Browsers are complicated. It doesn't inspire confidence that the folks in charge of that complexity can't get their heads around a business model.

(Aside: none of their stated company values have anything to do with the product or engineering [1]. They're all about how people feel.)

[1] https://thebrowser.company/values/

aaomidi 5 hours ago | root | parent | prev |

You’d think that a company shipping a browser would pay a little more attention to security rules.

Also, shame on firebase for not making this a bit more idiot proof.

And really? $2500? That’s it? You could’ve owned literally every user of Arc… The NSA would’ve paid a couple more zeros on that.

nemomarx 5 hours ago | root | parent | next |

Are there a lot of Arc users? It seems like a pretty niche browser even compared to other niches.

viraptor 2 hours ago | root | parent | next |

Lots of developers and power users make a good chunk of Arc's use base. If you're after some interesting credentials then "every Arc user" is a perfect group with little noise.

nicce an hour ago | root | parent |

> power users

Not that many. Most power users don't like to be forced for logging in, before they are able to use the browser.

doix 31 minutes ago | root | parent | next |

If I had to guess, the typical Arc user is a Mac user in tech. It doesn't run on Linux, most windows users wouldn't run it, and non-tech people haven't heard of it.

Then most engineering IC people will most likely run Firefox or Chrome, so you're probably looking at designers/founders/managers as your target.

Probably some interesting targets there, but not the type that the NSA cares about. Just pure conjecture on my part of course ;).

water-data-dude 5 hours ago | prev | next |

I just wanted to say, I enjoyed the little pixel art cat that runs towards wherever you click immensely. It’s one of those fun, whimsical little touches that I don’t see all that often. A reminder that the internet can be a fun, whimsical place if we want it to be :)

johndough 3 hours ago | root | parent | prev | next |

On Debian, you can install and run the cat with

    sudo apt install oneko
    oneko &
Makes a great gift for colleagues who leave their computer unattended.

monroewalker 3 hours ago | prev | next |

Can we have Arc added to the title of the post to better alert people who use or know people who use the browser?

ko_pivot 7 hours ago | prev | next |

This is such a fantastic bug. Firebase security rules (like with other BaaS systems like Firebase) have this weird default that is hard to describe. Basically, if I write my own API, I will set the userId of the record (a 'boost' in this case) to the userId from the session, rather than passing it in the request payload. It would never even occur to a developer writing their own API past a certain level of experience to let the client pass (what is supposed to be) their own userId to a protected API route.

On the other hand, with security rules you are trying to imagine every possible misuse of the system regardless of what its programmed use actually is.

nottorp 2 hours ago | root | parent |

> On the other hand, with security rules you are trying to imagine every possible misuse of the system regardless of what its programmed use actually is.

Tbh you're doing it wrong if you go that way.

Default deny, and then you only have to imagine the legitimate uses.

supriyo-biswas 5 hours ago | prev | next |

Great research. As I've said elsewhere, Firebase's authentication model is inherently broken and causes loads of issues, and people would be better off writing a small microservice or serverless function that fronts Firebase.

Also, for anyone trying to read the article, they should put `/oneko.js` in their adblocker.

Aaron2222 4 hours ago | root | parent |

> Also, for anyone trying to read the article, they should put `/oneko.js` in their adblocker.

Only if you hate cats, pixel art, or are easily distracted.

hunter2_ 3 hours ago | root | parent | next |

I suspect it's that they hate are easily distracted (if "hate" falls outside of the series, such that it applies beyond just "cats")!

nottorp 2 hours ago | root | parent | prev |

Looks like someone already added it to uBlock Origin since I see no cat.

Or maybe the cat doesn't support Firefox...

doix an hour ago | root | parent |

Did you enable the ui.prefersReducedMotion setting? That hides the cat from what I can tell

nottorp an hour ago | root | parent |

Hmm not that I remember. But I have reduced motion enabled on my phone system wide and maybe that synced to my desktop on its own.

Which is scary come to think of it.

whatevermom 21 minutes ago | prev | next |

I’m ashamed I fell for Arc and even recommended it to my friends, as someone whose job is exactly this but with Android apps :(

bestest 2 hours ago | prev | next |

the developers working with firebase should enforce common-sense document crud restrictions in the rules. that's just how firebase is. everyone knows it.

now, when talking about ARC BROWSER, i am seriously starting to doubt the competence of the team. I mean, if the rules are broken (no tests? no rules whatsoever?), what else is broken with ARC? are we to await a data leak from ARC?

any browser recommendations with proper vertical tabs and basically everything working like it does in ARC?

userbinator 5 hours ago | prev | next |

while researching, i saw some data being sent over to the server, like this query everytime you visit a site

I'm not surprised in the least --- basically the vast majority of software these days is spyware. Looking at Arc's privacy page, it appears to be mainly marketing fluff similar to what I've seen from other companies. I have yet to find a privacy policy that says frankly "we only know your IP and time you downloaded the software, for the few weeks before the server logs are overwritten."

jongjong 2 hours ago | prev | next |

This is a nice investigation and a great read. Sad that they don't normally do bug bounties. $2000 seems small considering the severity of this vulnerability. Though I guess the size and finances of the company is a factor. It takes some serious skills, effort and luck to discover something like that. It should be well compensated.